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Bachmann 4-4-0 for the Carson and Colorado

Bachmann 4-4-0 for the Carson and Colorado

Postby Solomani » Sat Nov 10, 2012 6:13 pm

Does anyone know if the Bachmann 4-4-0 color scheme "olive green and Russia iron" is accurate (or close) for the Carson and Colorado?

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Re: Bachmann 4-4-0 for the Carson and Colorado

Postby Solomani » Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:00 am

so the C&C locos look to originally be style 49 but the spec sheet crosses that out and has 69. I did not see anything in David Fletchers material detailing a style 69. Anyone know the difference between style 49 and 69?
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Re: Bachmann 4-4-0 for the Carson and Colorado

Postby Andrew Brandon » Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:24 pm

John,

Style 69 is essentially style 49, but with the style 2 drivers.

A Style 2 driver is the style 1 driver striping without the red "sunburst". The entire driver would be painted the base color of the locomotive.
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Re: Bachmann 4-4-0 for the Carson and Colorado

Postby Solomani » Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:15 am

Thanks Andrew,

I believe the Bachmann model is of an 8-18C instead of an 8-22C but with the olive green style 49/69 paint job it should still look good at the head end of the ore cars I plan to build. That is, if I can ever decide on a tip mechanism :)

Now to source a few of the parts such as the iron rod pilot and the sun flower stack. Looking at the spec sheet it seems to be a "Ronnet" stack? I tried looking for any internet material on a "Ronnet" stack but have not found anything.

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Re: Bachmann 4-4-0 for the Carson and Colorado

Postby Solomani » Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:27 am

Andrew Brandon wrote:John,

Style 69 is essentially style 49, but with the style 2 drivers.

A Style 2 driver is the style 1 driver striping without the red "sunburst". The entire driver would be painted the base color of the locomotive.



Andrew, does that mean it is all one color (olive green) or is there still some striping such as the red rim stripe? It would be easier to paint the entire driver green than to make new stripping.

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Re: Bachmann 4-4-0 for the Carson and Colorado

Postby Andrew Brandon » Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:48 am

John,

The striping should be identical to what is on there now.
David Fletcher did an illustration of Style 50 which shows a Style 2 driver here.

The stack notation probably says "Bonnet" stack, which is a pretty generic term. It likely refers to what gets called a "Sunflower" stack as we see on the Bodie's builders photograph.
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Re: Bachmann 4-4-0 for the Carson and Colorado

Postby Solomani » Sat Nov 17, 2012 12:38 pm

Futz... might be a bit of work to mask off the striping to get the red out of the driver... maybe visine could get the red out? :)

I agree that 'Bonnet' would be more likely but the poor fellow that wrote out the spec sheet sure made that 'B' look like an 'R'

Thank you for the help,

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Re: Bachmann 4-4-0 for the Carson and Colorado

Postby Randy Hees » Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:22 pm

I assembled a PDF of the domes and such from the Baldwin paint book from Stanford. It can be found at:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/50449782/RR/Style%2069.pdf

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Re: Bachmann 4-4-0 for the Carson and Colorado

Postby Solomani » Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:19 pm

Randy,

Thank you for putting that together!

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Re: Bachmann 4-4-0 for the Carson and Colorado

Postby Solomani » Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:38 am

Hi,

Has anyone seen a sunflower stack like this one being offered for sale in 1:20.3? Not holding out much hope but worth asking a group like this. I tried Ozark with no luck.

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