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Bachmann 4-4-0 for the Carson and Colorado

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 6:13 pm
by Solomani
Does anyone know if the Bachmann 4-4-0 color scheme "olive green and Russia iron" is accurate (or close) for the Carson and Colorado?

John

Re: Bachmann 4-4-0 for the Carson and Colorado

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:00 am
by Solomani
so the C&C locos look to originally be style 49 but the spec sheet crosses that out and has 69. I did not see anything in David Fletchers material detailing a style 69. Anyone know the difference between style 49 and 69?

Re: Bachmann 4-4-0 for the Carson and Colorado

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:24 pm
by Andrew Brandon
John,

Style 69 is essentially style 49, but with the style 2 drivers.

A Style 2 driver is the style 1 driver striping without the red "sunburst". The entire driver would be painted the base color of the locomotive.

Re: Bachmann 4-4-0 for the Carson and Colorado

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:15 am
by Solomani
Thanks Andrew,

I believe the Bachmann model is of an 8-18C instead of an 8-22C but with the olive green style 49/69 paint job it should still look good at the head end of the ore cars I plan to build. That is, if I can ever decide on a tip mechanism :)

Now to source a few of the parts such as the iron rod pilot and the sun flower stack. Looking at the spec sheet it seems to be a "Ronnet" stack? I tried looking for any internet material on a "Ronnet" stack but have not found anything.

-John

Re: Bachmann 4-4-0 for the Carson and Colorado

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:27 am
by Solomani
Andrew Brandon wrote:John,

Style 69 is essentially style 49, but with the style 2 drivers.

A Style 2 driver is the style 1 driver striping without the red "sunburst". The entire driver would be painted the base color of the locomotive.

Andrew, does that mean it is all one color (olive green) or is there still some striping such as the red rim stripe? It would be easier to paint the entire driver green than to make new stripping.

-John

Re: Bachmann 4-4-0 for the Carson and Colorado

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:48 am
by Andrew Brandon
John,

The striping should be identical to what is on there now.
David Fletcher did an illustration of Style 50 which shows a Style 2 driver here.

The stack notation probably says "Bonnet" stack, which is a pretty generic term. It likely refers to what gets called a "Sunflower" stack as we see on the Bodie's builders photograph.

Re: Bachmann 4-4-0 for the Carson and Colorado

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 12:38 pm
by Solomani
Futz... might be a bit of work to mask off the striping to get the red out of the driver... maybe visine could get the red out? :)

I agree that 'Bonnet' would be more likely but the poor fellow that wrote out the spec sheet sure made that 'B' look like an 'R'

Thank you for the help,

John

Re: Bachmann 4-4-0 for the Carson and Colorado

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:22 pm
by Randy Hees
I assembled a PDF of the domes and such from the Baldwin paint book from Stanford. It can be found at:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/50449782/RR/Style%2069.pdf

Randy

Re: Bachmann 4-4-0 for the Carson and Colorado

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:19 pm
by Solomani
Randy,

Thank you for putting that together!

John

Re: Bachmann 4-4-0 for the Carson and Colorado

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:38 am
by Solomani
Hi,

Has anyone seen a sunflower stack like this one being offered for sale in 1:20.3? Not holding out much hope but worth asking a group like this. I tried Ozark with no luck.

-John