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CPRR Early Flatcars

Postby Andrew Brandon » Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:50 pm

Early Central Pacific and Southern Pacific flatcars utilized a standard design: a 30' captured end sill car.
Cars of this type were also used by the Union Pacific Railroad.* The CP also built cars of this type for the Virginia and Truckee Railroad. Similar cars were also used on the Canadian Pacific Railway during construction.

Central Pacific / Southern Pacific Roster:
Central Pacific ( 1 - 3809 odd numbers only.
Renumbered 41060- 42565 (15 ton cars) and 43610 - 43737 (20 ton cars) in 1885)
Southern Pacific (183 - 455 odd numbers only)

Central Pacific examples:
CP-flats-119-95-111-in-Auburn.jpg
21. Trains at station, Auburn.
A.A. Hart Photograph
California State Library


CP-Flat-101-Humboldt.jpg
287. Entering Lower Canyon of Truckee River. (Sparks)
A.A. Hart Photograph
California State Library


CP-flats-sacramento-wharf.jpg
213. Railroad wharves at Sacramento.
A.A. Hart Photograph
California State Library



For additional information on these cars, please see: Early UPRR Flatcars.
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Re: Early CPRR Flatcars

Postby Andrew Brandon » Mon Dec 18, 2017 11:26 am

Additional Central Pacific cars:

CP-Flat-2033-Siskyous-SMU.jpg
#2033, crpped from a 1870s view of a freight train in the Siskyous.
DeGolyer Library, Southern Methodist University.


San-Pedro-Lumber-CP-Flats-Huntington-Lib.jpg
CP and SP flats at the San Pedro Lumber Company.
Huntington Library.
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Re: CPRR Early Flatcars

Postby Andrew Brandon » Fri Dec 29, 2017 3:28 pm

Here are some additional photographs for reference:

CP-1181-Flat-Car-C&C-Mill-Virginia-City,-ca-1878-Watkins-photo,-Calif-State-Lib-coll,-Dockery-Crop.jpg
Flat #1181 in Virginia City, Nevada ca 1878. Carleton Watkins.


CP-923-Flanger-Sacramento-ca-1876-CSRM-CROP.jpg
Detail of flanger #923. as far as I can tell special cars retained their original number, this car was likely flatcar #923 converted to sport the new flanger design.


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Various loads on flats in Bloomer Cut near Auburn. A. A. Hart stereoview.
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Re: CPRR Early Flatcars

Postby Andrew Brandon » Fri Jan 26, 2018 1:21 pm

All of this research inspired collaboration with Randy to devise these illustrations.
This should help set model railroaders and others researching these cars in the right direction:

CP-Flat-95-1866.png
Central Pacific flat #95. We aren't certain what color CP used for these cars initially. In 1868 the color was switched to "brown" based correspondence among the CP management.


UP-Flat-369-ca-1868.png
Union Pacific had similar cars, thought hey had different trucks and bolsters. Here is one of those cars from 1868.


LASP-Flat-23-1873.png
Los Angeles & San Pedro flat. Like the LA&I car, I do not have enough information on hand to verify this number is 100% correct.


LAI-Flat-44-1873.png
Los Angeles & Independence Railroad flat car. I am uncertain what numbers these cars wore exactly. I would love to find a high resolution view of a LA&I flat car.


CP-Flat-1181-1878.png
In the 1870s the cars were revised with a few additional tension rods.


VT-flat-CP-shops-1872.png
In 1870 the Virginia & Truckee Railroad purchased two orders of cars from the CP shops. The first cars may have been painted "Slate" to set them apart from the CP's cars.


VT-flat-CP-shops-1886.png
V&T flat #248 in 1886. This is the only CP built car to appear in a photograph of a V&T train. This car can be seen in the Crockwell view of the freight train crossing the Gold Hill Trestle.
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