Nevada Central Box car body found

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Randy Hees
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Nevada Central Box car body found

Post by Randy Hees » Wed Jul 07, 2010 6:19 pm

A Nevada Central box car body has recently been moved for preservation by a local museum.

The dimensions are reported to be:

length 22' 2"
width 7' 10"
height 8' 6"

Any ideas on who the builder is?
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Re: Nevada Central Box car body found

Post by Daniel Maxwell » Wed Jul 07, 2010 7:27 pm

I cant help you with your question Mr Hees, but do you have any idea which museum is doing the preservation?

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Re: Nevada Central Box car body found

Post by Randy Hees » Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:40 pm

Its a local county/historical museum. I was contacted by a BLM archeologist, who is coordinating it on her own time... (not an official BLM project)

She found Dan Markoff, who sent her off with a list of folks that may have information. She found me...

I understand that it was moved to a local ranch to be used as a bunk house... now is moving to a private home to be restored, then to the museum.

At 22' its not Carter, but is early, maybe Barney & Smith or Stockton and Ione...
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Re: Nevada Central Box car body found

Post by Andrew Brandon » Thu Jul 08, 2010 6:17 pm

Randy,

I pulled out Sloan's "Century + Ten", the D&RG Class 2 boxcar was 22' (24' over end sills for draft gear). This car would date between 1872-1874 built by Billmeyer and Small and would represent the boxcar shown in period advertisements for narrow gauge equipment.

Dimensions Per Sloan:

Class 2 - 22' 8-Ton #2001 - 2166

Inside Length 21'4"
Inside Width 6'1"
Inside Height 5'9"
Outside Length over sills 23'7"
Outside Length over body 22'1"
Outside Width over body 6'2"
Height to eaves 8'4"
Height to roof walk 9'1"
Height Overall 10'6"
Side Door width 4'6"
Side Door Height 5'7"
End Door width 1'8"
End Door height 3'
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Re: Nevada Central Box car body found

Post by Brian Norden » Fri Jul 09, 2010 12:07 am

The NC had Billmeyer & Small box cars. If this is one of them, then this is great!

The only other existing one we knew of was the body at Gold Strike Casino near Boulder City. And that one was reportedly sliced into pieces when it was removed along with the Shay.
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Re: Nevada Central Box car body found

Post by CraigH » Fri Jul 09, 2010 4:23 pm

Randy and the Ardenwood gang,

Time for a roadtrip? I think I can find a flatbed! It's been to long since the last one.

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Re: Nevada Central Box car body found

Post by Randy Hees » Sun Jul 11, 2010 11:11 pm

Herman Darr's plan says the B&S boxcars were 24' 1" long, and 7' wide... so this car doesn't seem to fit...

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Re: Nevada Central Box car body found

Post by Brian Norden » Mon Jul 12, 2010 12:09 am

Once the body surfaces and one of us can examine it maybe all will be known. Or the mystery will deepen.

One - Do we know how the reported length was determined? There are different ways to measure a car -- over siding, over end sill (and then we might have an exposed end sill), and some other kind of extreme length.

Does someone have the length of the carbody that used to be at Gold Strike Casino near Boulder City?

On the NC we have three known sources of cars: second-hand M&SV Carter built, second-hand Stockton & Ione and B&S built new.
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Re: Nevada Central Box car body found

Post by Brian Norden » Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:26 pm

I see that Randy has sent his question to the "NVnarrowgauge" Yahoo group. And he got back a response with a possible ID from Greg Maxwell, the list owner.
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