NWP (ex SPC) combine to Arcata & Mad River

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Randy Hees
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NWP (ex SPC) combine to Arcata & Mad River

Post by Randy Hees » Tue Oct 29, 2013 4:55 pm

I have been catching up on filing... cleaning out misc piles... and encountered this...

It is a NWP "Authority for Expenditure" used to track transactions that would effect the capitalization of the railroad, and therefore would be reported to the ICC...
It is tracking the sale of combine passenger/baggage 805 to the Northern Redwood Lumber Co., a line associated with and co-owned with the Arcata & Mad River.

In my experience, the equipment of the Arcata & Mad River and Northern Redwood lumber are so intertwined and mixed up that they have to be considered a single entity.

In March 1928 we are just three years away from the suspension of A&MR passenger service on June 6, 1931... We are a few years beyond the conversion of the NRLCo to standard gauge... (So the NRLC had little use for a narrow gauge combine... So far I haven't found a photo of the car on the railroad.

The car was built by Carter in 1887 for the SPC as combine 71, with a bull nose roof... it was sold to NWP in July 1907...
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Re: NWP (ex SPC) combine to Arcata & Mad River

Post by GregMaxwell » Thu Oct 31, 2013 8:50 am

Randy,
Somewhere I have a picture of a Northern Redwood caboose that was a narrow gauge car body mounted on a s.g. flat car. As In recall it did nave a bull nose roof. I am having trouble laying my hands on the print, as I have moved twice since last looking at it. The picture came from Brent MacGregor so others may have the same.
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Re: NWP (ex SPC) combine to Arcata & Mad River

Post by Randy Hees » Thu Oct 31, 2013 11:33 am

Hi Greg,

The small coach with cupola on a standard gauge flat is A&MR Smoker, No 1, now held by the SPCRR, via Henry Sorensen, back on NG trucks, stored off site in covered secured storage, but scheduled to move to Ardenwood in the next year.

It is almost certainly Carter, most likely a car reported in the Oaklannd papers in 1885, for "Kimball Brothers" (Northern Redwood Lumber and A&MR were owned by the Korbell Brothers) as a caboose (no cupola). It was built as a short coach, with side bench seating, and a ceiling cloth. A bit of the ceiling cloth survives. It has a 25' body... was painted wine red as a passenger car. We will most likely restore it to its 1916 appearance as a "smoker". I suspect it was designated a smoker because it didn't have upolstered seats. It should look good with SP 1010...

Randy
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Re: NWP (ex SPC) combine to Arcata & Mad River

Post by albspng » Thu Oct 31, 2013 1:44 pm

Randy,
In the mid '70s I worked in Arcata for Simpson Timber Co. who took over Northern Redwood, and owned the A&MR. I helped box up a lot of old Northern Redwood and early Simpson records that contained RR documents with a lot of disposition records and maps. They were of interest and I asked if they would be interested in donating the documents to the local Historical Society. The story I got from the local management was that one of the Reed (Simpson) family that owned Simpson Timber Co. was a history "nut" and wanted the documents for his private collection. These documents were shipped to Seattle. Contacting Simpson Timber/Green Diamond or whatever corporate identity they are now using (to reduce there tax "burden") might produce a lead for additional information you may be seeking.
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Re: NWP (ex SPC) combine to Arcata & Mad River

Post by Randy Hees » Sat Nov 02, 2013 8:59 am

Some of the earlier records are held by the Bancroft Library...

Arcata & Mad River Railroad Company records, 1868-1927 (bulk 1888-1903).
BANC MSS C-G 131 [no longer used] ; BANC MSS 73/83 c [no longer used]; BANC MSS 2002/195 c box 1; BANC MSS 2002/195 c box 2; ...

According to the catalog some of the letter are in Czech... anyone here read Czech?

I will see if I can find any Simpson records...

Randy
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