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E&P, EN, Ruby Hill locomotive roster

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E&P, EN, Ruby Hill locomotive roster

Postby Randy Hees » Wed Dec 03, 2014 5:45 pm

I have doodled together a Eureka & Palisades/Eureka Nevada/Ruby Hull roster... As others this might lead one down the road to strong drink...

Comments solicited

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Purchased by the Eureka & Palisades Railroad (1873-1901)

No1 Eureka (Onward, 1875) 0-4-4t Mason, 461, 10x15, 33" drivers, 29,900lbs
Built for stock, sold to the American Fork RR, where it was No 1, Onward. Sold to E&P 12/1873, as No 1, Eureka, renamed Onward in 1875 with arrival of No 4, sold to Nevada Central 10/1879, later to Utah Northern

No2 W.L. Prichard 2-6-0 Baldwin, 3638, 8/1874, 8-18d-10
sold to Bodie &Benton, 6/1881 as No 3, Tybo, later to Inyo Development

No 3 Hereafter 2-6-0 Baldwin, 3701, 3/1875, 8-18d-13
Disposition unknown.

No 4 Eureka 4-4-0 Baldwin, 3763, 7/1875, 8-18c-18
Sold in 1896 to Hobart Estate (No 5) to Warner Brothers, to Dan Markoff, preserved.

No 5 Palisade 4-4-0 Baldwin, 3826, 1/1876, 8-18c-20
One of two locomotives on work train abandoned in place near Alpha, March 1910
Disposition unknown.

No 6 Reveille 2-6-0 Baldwin, 4375, 7/1878, 8-20d-20
One of two locomotives on work train abandoned in place near Alpha, March 1910
Disposition unknown.

No 7 P. Evarts 4-4-0 Baldwin, 6662, 2/1883, 8-22c-55
Disposition unknown.

Purchased by the Eureka & Palisades Railway (1901-1910)

No 8 2-8-0, Baldwin, 28806, 1906, 16x22, 38" drivers, 94,880 lbs
Purchased new. To Sumpter Valley (2nd No 14) 1912, Outside frame.

No 9 4-4-0 Baldwin, 5285, 1880, 8-22c-11
Purchased used 1907. Built for the Carson & Colorado as No 1, Candellaria, to E&P Ry, April 20, 1907,Reportadlly disassembled for rebuilding at time of 1910 shut down, sold to Sumpter Valley (2nd No 10) in 1912, to Oregon Lumber Co. (No 103)

No 10 2-8-0, Baldwin, 11075, 1890 16x20, 38" drivers
Purchased used in 1910. Built for Alberta Coal and Ry Co, No 7, Derailed near Garden Pass in Feb 1910, left in place for 2 years, Sold to Sumpter Valley, No 15, 1912

Notes on locomotives purchased by Eureka- Nevada Railroad (1912-1938)

The E-N seems to have continued to use the number system from the E&P, and I have identified 2nd and 3rd engines from E&P through E-N, and as a result my numbering does not always match Myrick's. Additionally there are two significant transactions which confuse the roster.

In 1912, the new E-N traded three locomotives to the Sumpter Valley for three locomotives. It appears that the three EPRy locomotives, while newer, were not in operating condition, while the SV locomotives, while older and smaller were serviceable.
• E-N received SV 5 (to E-N 9(2nd)), 14 (never renumbered on E-N), & 15(never renumbered on E-N), these are shown below under their SV numbers. (although a Gerald Best photo shows No 15 lettered for ENRR, numbered 15.)
• Sumpter Valley received E&P locomotives 8, 9, & 10

Finally, in 1920, John Sexton personally purchased three used locomotives from the US Army, Ft Stevens Oregon. It is not clear why these were purchased. Two of them seem to have retained their Army numbers

USA locomotives

USA No 6 0-4-4. Baldwin, 21848, 8-11- 1/3c-19 3/1903, 9x14, 30" drivers, drawing 5
Purchased used by John Sexton in 1920, carried on the books of the Nevada Transportation Company until 1921, then owned by EN. Built for US Army, (No 6) for Ft Stevens Oregon, most likely for Columbia River jetty construction. In dead line at Palisades, 1938, scrapped

USA No 7 0-4-4. Baldwin, 21991, 8-11- 1/3c 5/1903, 9x14, 30" drivers, drawing 5
Purchased used by John Sexton in 1920, carried on the books of the Nevada Transportation Company until 1921, then owned by EN. Built for US Army, (No 7) for Ft Stevens Oregon for Columbia River jetty construction. This locomotive fell through a trestle in 1912 after breaking an axle, was fished out and rebuilt by the Army. Gone by 1927

USA No 8 0-4-4. Baldwin, 22002, 8-11- 1/3c-21 10/1903, 9x14, 30" drivers, drawing 5
Purchased 1920 by John Sexton, not owned by NT or EN, Built for US Army, (No 8) for Ft Stevens Oregon, Burned in 1927 engine house fire.

Eureka Nevada Locomotives

SV No 5 2-6-0, Brooks, 530, 4, 1881, 14x18, 41" drivers, 23 tons
Purchased in 1912 from Sumpter Valley (No 5), rebuilt in 1919 and renumbered E-N No 9

No 7(2nd) 2-6-2, Porter, 5724, 8/1915, 2-C-2-T 12x16, 36" drivers, 22 tons
Purchased new, sold to Parker Lyon 1939, to Bill Harrah 1955, to Silverwood, Athol, ID 1986

No 8 (2nd) 2-4-4t, Porter, 5637, 3/1915, 10x14, 36" drivers, 25 tons
Built as 0-4-0 as demonstrator by Porter, rebuilt as 2-4-4t before purchase, Purchased new, April 1915, rebuilt as 2-6-0 March-May 1926, burned in 1927 engine house fire. May have been named Eureka

No 9 (2nd) 2-6-0, Brooks, 530, 4, 1881, 14x18, 41" drivers, 23 tons
Purchased in 1912 from Sumpter Valley (No 5), rebuilt in 1919 and renumbered No 9
Ex OSL & Utah Northern 88, to Utah Northern 31 (3rd)
Burned in 1927 engine house fire, in dead line at end of operations

No 10(2nd) 2-6-4t, rebuilt as 2-6-0, Porter, 5893, July 1916, 12x16, 36" drivers, 27 tons
Purchased new, built as a 2-6-4t, class 4-C-2-R rebuilt March-May1926 into 2-6-0, using tender from No 7 by the Palisade shops. Burned in 1927 engine house fire

No 10(3rd) 2-8-0, Baldwin, 24271, 5/1904, 14x18, 36" drivers, 32 tons
Purchased used, From Uintah (No 10) 1927, Built for Uintah.

No 11 2-8-0, Porter, 6515, D-2-T, 6/1920, 14x18, 36" drivers
Purchased new, in service until 1936, when flue time ran out and No 12 (2nd) was purchased rather than rebuilding this locomotive

No 12 2-8-0, Vulcan, 3322, 3/1923, 13x16, 33" drivers
Purchased new, Burned in 1927 engine house fire

No 12 (2nd) 2-8-0, Baldwin, 14771, 10-26e-250 3/1896, 16x20, 37" drivers
Purchased used. Built for Florence & Cripple Creek, No 10, Independence, to Cripple Creek & Colorado Springs RR (No 36) 4, 1915, to Uintah Ry (No 12) 8/1917, New boiler, 1924, to E-N 1937, never re-lettered for E-N. Acquired by Dobbie Doc, to Frontier Hotel Las Vegas, to NSRM, Bolder City.

SV No 14 2-6-0, Baldwin, cn ukn, 1882, 14x18
Purchased used from Sumpter Valley, 1912, from Oregon Short Line, to Sumpter Valley c.1903
Never renumbered on E-N

SV No 15 4-4-0, Baldwin, 4982, 12x16, 44" drivers,
Purchased used from Sumpter Valley, 1912, Built for Utah Western (No 3 Jonathan) to Utah & Nevada, 1881, to OSL and Utah Northern as No 285 (2nd) in 1888, to SV (no 285) in 1890, renumbered No 4, then No 15. relettered but not renumbered on E-N. A Gerald Best photo (MHF, Rails, Sagebrush and Pine, p 105) show the engine lettered "ENRy" numbered 15.


Locomotives purchased for/by the Eureka and Ruby Hill Railroad (1873-1893)

No 1 0-6-0t Baldwin, 3732, 1875 6-14d-2 10x16, 36" drivers
Built and lettered for Eureka Consolidated Mining Company, as built was not numbered or named, but later reported to be named Ruby Hill. To West Side Flume and Lumber Co Star by 1901,Out of service by 1906, to M. A. Burns, Castle Crag, No 2, c.1913, to United Commercial, 1918 rebuilt and resold to Hawaiian Dredging Co. c1926, Scrapped, 1946

No 2 0-6-0 Baldwin, 4036, 1876 6-18d-1, 12x16, 37" drivers, 36,000 lbs
Ordered by Eureka & Palisades, lettered for "Ruby Hill R. R." No 2. Sold in 1893 to Pacific Lumber and Wood, No 3 Dewey, Clinton California, to Truckee Lumber Co. Oroville California as Butte & Plumas Railway No 1, 1901, to Swayne Lumber Co, Oroville, as "A" to United Commercial 1941, scrapped. Myrick says this locomotive was built for Madison & Portage RR, but that is not supported by Baldwin specification sheets.
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Re: E&P, EN, Ruby Hill locomotive roster

Postby GregMaxwell » Thu Dec 04, 2014 9:32 am

Just a couple of quick thoughts. I would be interested in where the name "Hereafter" for #3 comes from. This is the first time I have run across this. There is evidence from the Eureka Sentinel that #3 was named "Belmont". This would be in keeping with the E&P naming their freight engines after towns served by the company's freighting division, as #2 "Tybo" and #6 Reveille.

It would be wrong to assume that the EN stayed with the E&P's numbering system. E&P #5 was the only engine retained for use by the EN and when Sumpter Valley #5 arrived the "Palisade" became EN #3. E&P #6 and #7 were kept as possible rebuilding projects and it is not clear if or how they would figure into the EN/NTCo numbering scheme.

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Re: E&P, EN, Ruby Hill locomotive roster

Postby Jeff Livingston » Thu Dec 04, 2014 10:22 am

Randy,

Regarding the acquisition of "Ruby Hill" by Hawaiian Dredging Company, photographs in both the Hawaiian Dredging Collection at Bishop Museum and the 14th Naval District collection show this locomotive working at Dry Dock No. 1 on 5 January 1919. This indicates an acquisition date of 1918 or earlier vice 1926. If rebuilt in 1918 it appears reasonable that Hawaiian Dredging acquired it then.

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Re: E&P, EN, Ruby Hill locomotive roster

Postby Randy Hees » Thu Dec 04, 2014 5:37 pm

Greg, "Hereafter" comes from the Baldwin specification sheet posted in the images area of this site...
http://www.pacificng.com/imglib/main.php?g2_itemId=3170

Jeff... the earlier date for the 0-6-0t works... It was purchased by M A Burns for his Shasta area logging company... that company is seized by Southern Pacific for lumber trespass in 1916... SP subsidiary Pacific Improvement sells off the locomotives by 1919, so it could be earlier than the published 1926.

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Re: E&P, EN, Ruby Hill locomotive roster

Postby Brian Norden » Thu Dec 04, 2014 8:18 pm

E&P #2 renamed "Tybo" very early because Mr. Prichard was soon out of the picture. Maybe even by the time the locomotive was delivered.

I found an on-line reference to "Dobie Doc" http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/thomas-hull about half way down the page.

Griffith died less than a year after the hotel opened. It was Moore who carried out the dream, often attributed to Griffith, of establishing the Frontier Village, celebrating Nevada's colorful past. This was no hokey heap of used sets from forgotten B-movies, but consisted largely of the actual buildings and relics of Nevada's yesteryears.

Most of it came from the collection of Robert "Dobie Doc" Caudill, Moore said.

"Dobie Doc" was an abbreviation of the name under which he had once run a construction-repair business: The Adobe Doctor. Caudill was a gambler who would later hold a small interest in Benny Binion's Horseshoe Casino. He was also a compulsive collector of Western memorabilia; so compulsive, in fact, that many called him a kleptomaniac.

It is uncertain whether the Frontier management understood the doubtfulness of title by which Doc held many of his collectibles. But those it bought from him and displayed included Elko's joss house -- a small temple built for Chinese railroad workers in the 1860s and said to be the oldest surviving in the United States. There was the wooden jail which served Tuscarora in the 1870s. Its interior walls were still equipped with leg irons, and charred by an escape-by-fire plot which went awry and burned to death the man trying to escape. There were real prairie schooners, real old-fashioned horse-drawn fire engines.


Story that I heard is that Charles Sexton (brother of John Secton) who was the last GM of the road was surprised to find the #12 removed from Palisades. For some reason the locomotive was not sold with the railroad to the scrapper -- maybe hopping for a better deal. Charles took a prospective buyer out to look at the locomotive at Palisades and it was not to be found!
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Re: E&P, EN, Ruby Hill locomotive roster

Postby Brian Norden » Thu Dec 04, 2014 8:22 pm

Looking at the BLW spec sheet, I doubt that the #3 was named "Hereafter." This word appears to be in pencil and not in ink like all the rest of the sheet. Maybe the meaning of the notation is that the name would be provided some time in the future (ie. hereafter).
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Re: E&P, EN, Ruby Hill locomotive roster

Postby Brian Norden » Thu Dec 04, 2014 8:30 pm

(How do I edit a submitted post that I wrote?)

One more item:
E&P #9 ex-C&C #1. The name was "Candelaria." (one "l" in the name)
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Re: E&P, EN, Ruby Hill locomotive roster

Postby GregMaxwell » Thu Dec 04, 2014 8:53 pm

The story I got from Judge John Sexton's (C.B. Sexton's son) ex-wife, Louise was that in the spring of 1947 John Sexton, who was then the Eureka County District Attorney, got a call from a resident of Palisade telling him that #12 had been removed. Sexton thought it was a joke but drove up to Palisade to see for himself. Finding the engine gone he tracked #12 down and found it still on a trailer at Doby Doc's compound at Elko. According to Louise Sexton a price was negotiated on the spot.

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Re: E&P, EN, Ruby Hill locomotive roster

Postby GregMaxwell » Sat Dec 06, 2014 8:45 am

Randy,
E&P #3
I went back and looked at the Xerox copies of the spec sheet for E&P #2 and 3 I got from SMU back in 1990 and the Hereafter notation didn't show up. (resolution problem?) The Eureka Daily Sentinel of 3-15-1874 reported that the E&P locomotive "Belmont" was in the Palisade Machine shop receiving a new set of flues. This would have to be #1 or #3 and since we also have the name "Onward" floating around, my money is on #3 being the "Belmont".
E&P #2
#2 was first reported in service on 3-1-1874 (EDS) and Pritchard left the E&P at the end of June, 1875. I would guess the #2's name was changed from "WL Pritchard" to "Tybo" following Pritchard's departure.

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Re: E&P, EN, Ruby Hill locomotive roster

Postby Randy Hees » Sat Dec 06, 2014 1:57 pm

Greg,

Can you check the date that No 2 went into service, the Baldwin spec sheet is dated 7/23/1874...

Also, do you have any idea about what happened to No 3...


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