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Flat cars sold by SP to NCNG in 1936

Postby Brian Norden » Wed Apr 06, 2016 7:19 pm

I was going though the page copies I have of the SP car record book covering the NG from 1930 to 1960.

I found that the SP sold six flat cars to the NCNG on 3/24/36. These were flat cars 56, 111, 120, 143, 501 and 505.

This is close to two years from when the NCNG bought the three passenger cars from the SP. That sale is listed as 6-12-34; with the cars being relettered for the NCNG on 8/15/34.
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Re: Flat cars sold by SP to NCNG in 1936

Postby Brian Norden » Mon Apr 11, 2016 10:05 pm

I need to make a correction to my statement about the passenger cars. The date of relettering and renumbering the cars is wrong. The date quoted is the date of a letter or memo from A. T. Mercier to the car clerks noting the new numbers of the three passenger cars. Mr. Mercier was then the General Manager of the SP; he would soon move up to Vice-President and then become President of SP in 1942 and serve in that capacity to 1951.

I guess that the clerk(s) thought that if the GM thought it important to note the new numbers, they should add those to the record cards and the car record book.

In searching out who A. T. Mercier was I found that the California Historical Society carried an In Memorian obituary of him. Mr. Mercier must have been a member of the Historical Society.
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Re: Flat cars sold by SP to NCNG in 1936

Postby Andrew Brandon » Tue Apr 12, 2016 8:04 am

Brian,

I believe SP #501 and #505 became NCNG #419 and #421, though I have no idea which is which.
A photo of #421 is in the gallery.

#419 spent the later years with an excavator loaded on top. behind the Glenbrook in the Grass Valley yard.

SP #143 remained lettered SP #143 for a time and shows up in the photos Otto Perry took in 1935.
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SP #143 on Jennings Trestle. August 3, 1935. Otto Perry Photograph.
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Re: Flat cars sold by SP to NCNG in 1936

Postby Brian Norden » Wed Apr 27, 2016 9:04 pm

Andrew --

Thank you for the information.

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